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Post by lauralovecraft on Jun 25, 2017 11:23:30 GMT
Hey bad girls! This is the thread to discuss our upcoming anthology. We have decided on the theme of Taboo and have exchanged some other thoughts via e-mail.
In this first post I'll list some things we need to work out, everyone feel free to ad their thoughts and suggestions or anything you're not in agreement on.
1-Story length. So far there's five of us. I feel if we could keep it an average of 10k I think that would be ideal, but that's my opinion
2- Title I suggest 'Bad Girls of Erotica' and a sub title. Example "Bad Girls of Erotica: Incest is Best!"
3- Cover...Alana and I share a designer who charges $20. This is her FB link.
www.facebook.com/moira.nelligar?fref=ts
If all agree to use her, great. If anyone has other suggestions feel free to post them
4-Cover ideas...what's this thing going to look like?
5-Price...this will be subject to what we determine for length. We split five ways so its not like we're making a lot per sale, but keep in mind this isn't just about what we make from the sales of this book, but what it can do to draw more readers to our individual works.
6-Publisher-Who is going to handle the uploading, the payments, etc? Alana and Veronica use Boruma Publishing I believe for all their work and I use them for several sites. I've found Jo to be professional, courteous, and above all fair and honest. Been working with her for four years and no issues whatsoever. But again...if someone has another option, feel free to post it.
7-Theme-do we want all the same pairing like mom/son or a mixed bag? Both have their own audiences and I don't feel one style does better than another. One thing I had been thinking of however is being we're the 'bad girls of erotica' I wonder if an all daddy/daughter theme might be enticing? Thoughts on that?
These are some thoughts at 7:21 on a Sunday morning. So I'm most likely missing a whole lot, so please chime in and let's kick this bitch into gear!
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Post by alana on Jun 25, 2017 12:15:47 GMT
Laura: Thanks for putting this together. This is probably better than a long e-mail chain. To answer your questions with my opinions: 1) As you know, most of my stories run longer than 10K. But i have a couple which i could edit into that range. 2) I agree on the title format, though "Incest is Best" might be a little much for even some of our more forgiving distributors. 3) I encourage everyone to check out Moira's FB page so they can an an idea about her style. 4) Cover ideas: Most of my books feature one attractive woman only. But since we are talking about a collaboration, I think we should go for an attractive couple. They should be embracing, or at least look like they are considering doing some naughty things. : ) 5) Price: Our book with three authors (Laura, Becca Sinh, and myself) goes for $4.99. The title is "Got MILF," and you can check it out here. www.smashwords.com/books/view/584655I think that a price of around $6.99 is fair for our anthology. 5 stories for that price is a heck of a deal. As Laura says, we're not going to net much more than a buck per sale. But getting our names in front of a wider audience can't do anything but help. 6) Publisher: What Laura says. I've been working with Jo for 2 years now, and she is responsive, professional, and most importantly in this business, honest. 7) Theme: I think a mixed bag is best. I've got (as stand-alones) kissing cousins, siblings, M/S and F/D. though if we want to do the with one theme, I can do that. Might take some creative editing to pare down the size, though. As a side note, I reached out to Jo and let her know our plans and to get her thoughts. Hopefully we will hear something back today. I hope everyone is as excited about this as i am. I will be out of touch for the rest of the day (going to visit family, sigh). But let's get this train rolling!
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Post by lauralovecraft on Jun 25, 2017 12:58:00 GMT
The "Incest is Best" is just an example, I wouldn't go with it. Bad Girls of Erotica: Love, family style Bad Girls of Erotica: Family ties Bad Girls of Erotica: Taboo Tales or Trysts....
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Post by alana on Jun 25, 2017 13:29:04 GMT
Laura:
I was thinking about "Family Ties," as well. Though we might get sued by Michael J Fox (Whoo! Lame 80's joke accomplished!).
I like "Taboo Trysts." I also came up with "Sins of the Flesh," though that might not do enough to draw attention to the taboo aspect. I'll try to think of a few more while I am driving through the soul-numbing tedium of central Illinois later today.
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Post by lauralovecraft on Jun 25, 2017 13:41:26 GMT
I have Family Affairs series and no one with a Mrs Beasley doll has tried to sue me yet and I've seen "All in the family" incest title.
I've thought of Family Ties for an anthology of books I have that mix incest and bondage.
Mallory from Family Ties is the perfect sister I see for incest stories, pretty, but natural looking...that's how my mind works.
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Post by veronicasloan on Jun 25, 2017 15:40:37 GMT
My mind actually goes to the same place for B/S stories - pretty but more natural sister who understands her brother more than the bimbos he probably likes. (Though the brother is always super built and has six packs on his six packs )
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Post by veronicasloan on Jun 25, 2017 15:41:12 GMT
OMG what IS THIS AVATAR? Kill it with fire!!!!
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Post by veronicasloan on Jun 25, 2017 15:55:49 GMT
1) I think keeping each story to roughly 10K is a good idea. With the 5 of us currently on board that means the bundle's a minimum of 50,000 words. Definitely okay to charge $6.99 for that. 2) For the subtitle I agree we should fit taboo in there. I like the options already on the table. I'll just add "Bad Girls of Erotica: Taboo Encounters' and "Bad Girls of Erotica: Taboo Seductions' 3) Yes, let's use Moira. Would we each chip in for the cost or (maybe more efficient) whoever publishes the anthology just recoups the first $20 and then divides the rest of the royalties. 4) Sexy 5) I think $6.99 sounds good, though maybe bump it down one dollar if it stays at 50,000 words. 6) I think I might be the baby in this group (where publishing is concerned), so I respectfully defer to you ladies on the publishing. I'm all in for Jo, though. She's wonderful. 7) I like the 'mixed bag' taboo theme - especially since I have an 11K B/S story that I could easily submit without cutting down - but I also like Laura's 'dirty daughter' collection. I will most likely submit a B/S or F/D story anyway so either works for me )
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Post by lauralovecraft on Jun 25, 2017 17:17:46 GMT
I have mom/son dad/daughter that fit the 10k and under range. My Sib stories run longer because I always go in on conflict and some romance as its my personal kink. If the story goes slightly over ten as in like 11k I don't think its the end of the world. I just figured to put a limit for not just overall length, but some balance as in one person doesn't have a 22k opus and someone else has a 5k. I think if this works out we could do a follow up and maybe do a Bad Girls of Erotica:Daddy's Girls themed anthology. I agree with Veronica five stories I would suggest $5.99 rather than $6.99. Cover I think a steamy couple would work and the woman could either be an older milf or a younger girl because mothers and daughters/sisters will be featured. As an aside am I the only one who is constantly annoyed by how dorky some of the guys are in couples pics on stock photo sites? What photog thinks some of these geeks are hot?
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Post by lauralovecraft on Jun 25, 2017 17:20:51 GMT
We'll wait to hear from Summer and Alexa on whether or not we're going to use Moira for the cover and Boruma for publishing in case they have other suggestions.
Oh...and to Veronica's other comment as for the $20 cover cost-if with Moira-or cost in general we could either all chip in through paypal to the person who pays out for it or have it come out of the proceeds. I'm okay with either.
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Post by BorumaPublishing on Jun 25, 2017 18:23:01 GMT
I like "Taboo Trysts." It's a short enough subtitle to fit on a cover.
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Post by summer on Jun 25, 2017 21:32:44 GMT
I'm fine with the mixed bag and a 10K limit. The price and everything else seems fair. Since this will be my first time collaborating, I am good with other distributors and cover designers. I have usually done my own and published through Pronoun.
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Post by veronicasloan on Jun 25, 2017 21:52:33 GMT
I agree about the dorky dudes! It seems like there are two kinds of couples in most of my searches - one where the guy is ridiculously buff and vacant eyed and one where the guy's like, "Just happy to be here!"
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Post by lauralovecraft on Jun 25, 2017 22:19:45 GMT
I know I see so many pics of hot women and the guy is skinny and geeky and ugly I just think...okay this is truly male fantasy here.
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Post by veronicasloan on Jun 25, 2017 23:02:21 GMT
I don't know what it is. Maybe lack of access to good models? There was one picture I really wanted for a cover - the girl looked appropriately seductive and the man didn't look too goofy - but then I looked closer and realized his entire back and neck were covered in hair! What?! What is this?!
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